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General Discussion of Anything Gram

Since that's the way this Group or BB is organized, thought I'd give y'all a place to say anything (within reason!).

Permalink Reply by David Shaw on October 19, 2009 at 3:12pm: I was rather surprised at how down on Gram Chris Hillman was in the book Hot Burritos ... in view of the many favorable things he has had to say about him and their period together in the past. What happened?; ▶ Reply to This

Permalink Reply by Will James on October 19, 2009 at 3:51pm: Most folks have heard me on this subject, on the GPBB (now at a different address!) and elsewhere. I've already alienated some EH fans (even though I love her) and I've probably done the same with some Chris Hillman fans (though I have the highest respect for much of his work). Anyone else have something to say?; ▶ Reply to This

Permalink Reply by lawrence gene watts on October 19, 2009 at 8:15pm: I'm sure by most accounts gram was not the most dependable guy to work with,also drugs etc.. chris was a true professional and had been playing in "the hillman " and "the byrds" long before he meet gram. the one thing is without chris hillman no flying burrito brother's!!; ▶ Reply to This

Permalink Reply by Will James on October 19, 2009 at 8:49pm: Actually the Flying Burrito Brothers were formed by Ian Dunlop (who just released a great new album) and Mickey Gauvin who left Gram's International Submarine Band when it was unraveling (Gram often sat in with them); Gram disbanded the ISB to join Chris and the directionless Byrds and famously quit them because of fear of flying, apartheid, or to hang with Keith, depending on what you want to believe. Ultimately Gram and Chris (who was certainly the first to force country on Roger) formed the core of the Gilded Palace Burritos, a true collaboration of the two greats. But there's a huge canyon between being a great country musician/songwriter and a guy who in his very short career was a true turning point in the direction of a great American art form. IMHO.; ▶ Reply to This

Permalink Reply by Peggy Hanson on October 23, 2009 at 10:51am: In my reading of Hot Burritos, Chris said the recent Amoeba FBB release and the bio Twenty Thousand Roads brought back up for him, after many years, that Gram gets most of the glory and that he was hard to work with.; ▶ Reply to This

Permalink Reply by Will James on October 23, 2009 at 11:31am: I wonder how many Inductees were hard to work with, or any creative genius for that matter. Perhaps the creative genius found others hard to work with! Let's keep him out of the Hall because he was hard to work with (which by the way is contradicted by most other accounts I've read or personal interviews I've done with those who knew him, such as Bob Buchanan). I thought I'd heard them all. C'mon, as much as I keep saying I admire Hillman's work, are we really putting him on the same plain as Gram Parsons?; ▶ Reply to This

Permalink Reply by lawrence gene watts on November 9, 2009 at 8:48am: It's tough not to sometimes,I mean the byrds reissues and box set does shed some new light on chris hillman.I don't put him above gram ,but he can be on the plain behind him.; ▶ Reply to This

Permalink Reply by Chris Saunders on October 20, 2009 at 8:51am: Hey Guys...keep this up...this is great stuff and I am enjoying reading it.; ▶ Reply to This

Permalink Reply by Jeff from NH on October 23, 2009 at 9:12am: In case you didn't see it, there's an article on PasteMagazine.com about the petition.

See the article, published on 10/22: Help Induct Gram Parsons into the Country Music Hall of Fame; ▶ Reply to This

Permalink Reply by Will James on October 23, 2009 at 9:40am: Much thanks, Jeff. My subscription ran out a few months ago. I'll ck it out now. Will; ▶ Reply to This

Permalink Reply by Will James on October 23, 2009 at 10:16am: 80 new signers since yesterday, not bad. Thank you Paste!; ▶ Reply to This

Permalink Reply by Peggy Hanson on October 23, 2009 at 10:49am: good going! Viral soon!; ▶ Reply to This

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